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mansikka - 31 Mar 2009, 03:48 pm
I find myself taking notes, writing lists and just plain doodling simply because I enjoy doing it. Not because I need to write everything down, but I like writing in a nice notebook with a nice pen.
Also, it does feel great to get some of those ideas out of my head and down on paper - less stressful not having to remember them all the time!
So, do you write stuff just because you can?
bardharlock - 31 Mar 2009, 04:47 pm
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So, do you write stuff just because you can?
Absolutely! I carry a notebook of one kind or another on me at all times. I recently tested a bunch of notebooks as well to find a paper I liked best so next year I will not only carry a notebook with me at all times, but a small daily planner. I forget way too many dates, ideas and appointments!
-XFinfannelX- - 31 Mar 2009, 05:36 pm
you're not alone. Once i even did this thing called random writing and drawing. I just took out a notebook and started writing random stuff :lol:
onelonegunman - 01 Apr 2009, 06:04 am
I keep interesting facts and trivial in standard school composition notebooks, song lyrics in another, original stuff as well. I also have note pads in my computer room that I "doodle write" on all the time. I get pleasure just in the simple act of putting pen/pencil to paper. Up until a few years ago whenever I sat down in front of the TV I had a clipboard and pencil in front of me and a board spanning the arms of the chair acting as a desk. Nowadays I just keep all my writing stuff beside me on a table in the living room. Often, instead of a board I now use a pillow, I'll have a clipboard and pencil in front of me just to doodle write on during commercials. I carry a pen with me whenever I go out. I'd carry a small notebook except for the simple fact that I'd ruin it within days because I sweat so much! Putting it in my pants pocket would bend it severally. What I need is a small renewable notebook in a hard plastic cover! Anyone know of any? 8)
bardharlock - 01 Apr 2009, 01:02 pm
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What I need is a small renewable notebook in a hard plastic cover! Anyone know of any? 8)
I am currently using a Field Notes notebook, the inner and outer cover of which I have sealed in 3M Scotch packing tape. Made in the USA, distinctive looks, cheeky humor and fairly sweat-proof.
You could do the same with a Doane Utility Notebook, but I know you dislike them because they are not college-ruled (one of my beefs with them as well but I manage to get two lines of text in every line since I can use the graph as a guide!)
Also, the Moleskine Volant has a laminate cover, but I cannot recommend them, despite their having more value for the money page quanitity wise because the laminate peels off from the cover too easily.
Another option is a Clairfontaine staplebound notebook. I really love their paper quality and it even works quite well with many fountain pen inks. The cover has a clear plastic laminate to it and seems (thus far) to be of the type not to peel away from the cover. It too is a good value.
The only reason I prefer the Field Notes or Doane Utility notebooks over it right now is that the two former are both American made and the Clairefontaine has a multi-color (orange, blue and yellow) cover that is too bright for my taste when it comes to the classic, unassuming notebook.
So far, Field Notes is my preferred "everyday" notebook because their marketing is just more to my appeal. I believe Field Notes uses slightly thinner paper than Doane Utility does, but still did not bleed through with a Lamy AL-Star fountain pen using an extra-fine nib and Noodler's Bulletproof Black ink.
Shipping from Doane and Field Notes were exactly the same, time-wise and Field Notes seems to base shipping costs on weight rather than Doane's sliding scale according to cost (I have never understood shipping by cost rather than by weight - I mean, a few lightweight items that cost more than a few bulky and weighty items -should not- cost me more in shipping!)
Plus, Field Notes tosses in some freebies with each order. I got a nice wooden pencil, a Bic Clic pen, an old-fashioned calendar like my grandparents used to have all over their house that came free from the Rexall drugstore in their small town, a "general-purpose band of rubber" (black rubber band) - all carrying the Futura Bold Field Notes brand name - and one sticker of The Coudal Logo.
Yeah, "free" crap, clever marketing, classic looks and Made in the USA do it to me every time. Still, a few strips of that clear, wide packing tape and you may just be able to get a notebooks you can live with and not sweat through!
mansikka - 01 Apr 2009, 01:43 pm
Onelongegunman: How about making a slipcover for it out of oilcloth? That way you wouldn't have to worry about it ever getting wet, and you could just pick whichever notebook you prefer!
Everyone, I feel less strange now :) Writing just to write IS a nice experience.
bardharlock - 01 Apr 2009, 02:36 pm
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Onelongegunman: How about making a slipcover for it out of oilcloth? That way you wouldn't have to worry about it ever getting wet, and you could just pick whichever notebook you prefer!
Everyone, I feel less strange now :) Writing just to write IS a nice experience.
How would one do this? Oh and where does one purchase oilcloth... Hmm and I wonder if I could make one with some sort of adjustable spine to contain slightly thicker or thinner notebooks, also, would it lay flat when opened? So many questions, but your idea really struck me as a superb one, so I hope you don't mind me asking!
mansikka - 01 Apr 2009, 03:40 pm
Oilcloth is flexible, it'd take on whichever shape your book has.
I was thinking more of a small pouch, to really keep water off the pages as well. But you can make a version to just slip on the cover. Just take a large, flat rectangle of cloth, fold the sides over so they partially cover the sides of your book and allow it to slip in and out easily...
You can glue or seam the edges, glue would be more waterproof, seams possibly sturdier... or you can seam it, then add glue to the seams for waterproofing.
If you're really adventurous, you can even add a small gusset with a zipper to the edges, you know, like some wallets have?
...this would be a lot easier to explain in pictures.
As for oilcloth, I'm not sure. They sell tablecloths made of it, could just buy one of those to use. Or possibly a fabric supply store, or any place that sells supplies for sailing. Or even one of the rain coats/trousers made for children, if you find a cheap, plain one.
mansikka - 01 Apr 2009, 04:49 pm
You know, I'll grab some fabric and take pictures of what I mean later :) I don't have oilcloth, but any fabric should work for showing how to do it.
onelonegunman - 01 Apr 2009, 11:48 pm
Sounds like a good idea guys. I like the pouch idea, completely covering the notebook. What I had envisioned was a small notebook that was secured into a hard plastic case that would open and allow use of the notebook with out it having to be removed. Once the notebook was used up, replace it with a fresh one.
But for the pouch idea vinyl cloth would work just fine. For a slip cover, why not a thin cloth, maybe cotton or linen, then treat it with Scotch Guard? I've heard tell that Scotch Guard will make cloth water repellent for a goodly amount of time. What do you think? :roll:
mansikka - 02 Apr 2009, 11:35 am
bardharlock, I found a tutorial that shows what I mean :) Just replace the fabric with something waterproof, and there you go. You don't need interfacing if the fabric itself is already sturdy/will keep the shape.
http://moonstitches.typepad.com/photos/book_cover/index.html
bardharlock - 02 Apr 2009, 11:40 am
Awesome, mansikka. My sister-in-law has a sewing machine and likes to sew, I bet I could talk her into a nice little cover!
mansikka - 02 Apr 2009, 12:24 pm
It's not all that much work, so yeah, you probably could :)
mansikka - 02 Apr 2009, 12:27 pm
onelongegunman: I've never used scotch guard, so I honestly don't know. The website says it helps repel spills and stains, so it probably depends on how waterproof you want/need it to be.
PencilNStuffAddict - 02 Apr 2009, 04:50 pm
wwwwooooooww. so u ppl love to write and draw all because of a few nice pens and pencils and notebooks and paper? or are you addicts to this stuff because you love to write or draw? you know, i wonder how you can keep the habit of writing things down cause i wanna do that but i dont know how to get into the habit. like, what if you think of something while ur in a tight situation? like while you are driving? and when ur laying in bed?
onelonegunman - 02 Apr 2009, 08:08 pm
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bardharlock, I found a tutorial that shows what I mean :) Just replace the fabric with something waterproof, and there you go. You don't need interfacing if the fabric itself is already sturdy/will keep the shape.
http://moonstitches.typepad.com/photos/book_cover/index.html
Cool idea! Thanks for the link! I hate to sew, so I bet I can come up with something that doesn't require sewing! I'd use heat and bond instead! :wink:
mansikka - 02 Apr 2009, 08:09 pm
Yeah, why not! Or glue, or whatever works :D
onelonegunman - 02 Apr 2009, 08:11 pm
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wwwwooooooww. so u ppl love to write and draw all because of a few nice pens and pencils and notebooks and paper? or are you addicts to this stuff because you love to write or draw?
Yes!
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you know, i wonder how you can keep the habit of writing things down cause i wanna do that but i dont know how to get into the habit. like, what if you think of something while ur in a tight situation? like while you are driving? and when ur laying in bed?
Keep a small voice activated digital recorder in the car with you. Keep a pen and notebook on a bedside table along with a table lamp.
bardharlock - 02 Apr 2009, 09:46 pm
QUOTE:
wwwwooooooww. so u ppl love to write and draw all because of a few nice pens and pencils and notebooks and paper? or are you addicts to this stuff because you love to write or draw? you know, i wonder how you can keep the habit of writing things down cause i wanna do that but i dont know how to get into the habit. like, what if you think of something while ur in a tight situation? like while you are driving? and when ur laying in bed?
I love to write. I never learned to type and I only type with five fingers so I can only squeak out 50 words per minute. Plus, there is just something more intimate about putting pen or pencil to paper and seeing that line appear, thin and dark, on the creamy smooth virgin surface; giving my thoughts, my imagination, my intangible dreams life of their own, outside of my skull.
It's a very romantic notion, in my mind at least. So, I write by hand most things.
onelonegunman - 02 Apr 2009, 11:56 pm
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wwwwooooooww. so u ppl love to write and draw all because of a few nice pens and pencils and notebooks and paper? or are you addicts to this stuff because you love to write or draw? you know, i wonder how you can keep the habit of writing things down cause i wanna do that but i dont know how to get into the habit. like, what if you think of something while ur in a tight situation? like while you are driving? and when ur laying in bed?
I love to write. I never learned to type and I only type with five fingers so I can only squeak out 50 words per minute. Plus, there is just something more intimate about putting pen or pencil to paper and seeing that line appear, thin and dark, on the creamy smooth virgin surface; giving my thoughts, my imagination, my intangible dreams life of their own, outside of my skull.
It's a very romantic notion, in my mind at least. So, I write by hand most things.
I like to write, too! There is just something about putting a pencil or pen to paper that's soothing and comforting. I can't explain it. My cursive had is terrible and I am so out of practice using it I have to stop and think about writing! I've been printing since Jr. High but I can often make letters flow due to some experience with calligraphy!
I wish that I had been in a school system up north somewhere where I've heard people say that at one time, not too long ago, they were still teaching students to write with a broad tipped pen! The technique is similar to calligraphy but the short serifs are pushed, not pulled, so they are naturally short. I've seen peoples hand writing that have been taught this way and their hand is beautiful! Even with a reg. pen or pencil the strokes are lovely! But with a broad tipped pen they look fantastic! There was a time when students were taught such penmanship, alas, It was before my time when it was taught everywhere and I was in the wrong place when it was only taught in a few schools! So I guess one day before I die I'll just have to teach myself! :roll:
PencilNStuffAddict - 29 Apr 2009, 09:28 pm
onelonegunman: what technique are u talking about?
bardharlock: that sounds very passionate and poetic.
onelonegunman - 01 May 2009, 12:06 am
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onelonegunman: what technique are u talking about?
They used a broad tipped pen, similar to a calligraphy pen, more like the nib on a Pilot Plumix. It was angled at 45 degrees to the paper and the strokes were made the same way that we ordinarily print, only with a few flourishes added, which were pushed instead of pulled. Normally with a calligraphy pen the nib allows the user to pull the pen, not push it. But a very short push can sometimes be employed.
The Pilot Plumix, a broad nibbed fountain pen can be found at Target. Nrepose did a review of it on his blog, Unposted. It's worth checking out. The nib has a squared off end on the nib, not a pointed one like the Pilot Penmanship sold by JetPens. To use it all you do is hold the pen at a 45 degree angle to the paper and write normally. The result is very nice. 8)
sh00k - 01 May 2009, 10:03 am
As for me, since i've bought like 50 pens in the last couple of weeks, I find myself taking notes with a different pen, in a different color for each class i am taking! LOLOL. sometimes i'll switch pens/colors in the middle of class. my notes are beautiful to look at though
=))))
I just hope some of my less frequently used pens don't dry out or anything... i keep all caps on and in my new pencil case..
Passion - 13 May 2009, 12:38 pm
I absolutly love writing for the sake of writing. My diary/journal is where that usually happens though.
Does anyone know where to get a clairefontaine notebook from an english site? I want to be able to read what I'm buying :)
mackemsam - 14 May 2009, 04:22 am
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I'd carry a small notebook except for the simple fact that I'd ruin it within days because I sweat so much! Putting it in my pants pocket would bend it severally. What I need is a small renewable notebook in a hard plastic cover! Anyone know of any? 8)
Not quite a hard plastic cover, but this is what I keep my 'travelling kit' in:
http://www.specopsbrand.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=12&products_id=42
Rock-solid construction, water resistant (as opposed to waterproof) Cordura nylon, and will take a 6" x 4" Rhodia notebook (a bit of a squeeze, but it will take one) or a 6" x 4" 'All-Weather Notebook.' I sprayed mine with a similar product to Scotch Guard and I've been caught in the rain a couple of time, but the notebook has remained completely dry, whereas I haven't!
There are other versions of this 'cargo pocket organiser' available, with a comparison posted here:
http://techiebags.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=74:pocketorgcomp&catid=43:multimanufac&Itemid=53
Hope that helps.
Cheers,
Sam
Passion - 14 May 2009, 09:48 am
Thank you that was super helpful!
I live in US by the way. :)
mackemsam - 14 May 2009, 10:27 am
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Thank you that was super helpful!
I live in US by the way. :)
Happy to oblige - any time. :wink:
Cheers,
Sam
onelonegunman - 15 May 2009, 01:44 am
Those are sooooo cool! Just my kinda thing, too! Thanks for the links! 8)
mackemsam - 15 May 2009, 03:39 am
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Those are sooooo cool! Just my kinda thing, too! Thanks for the links! 8)
You're welcome. Happy I was able to help. :)
Cheers,
Sam